[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 17, Issue 113
scot springberg
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Sun May 31 10:05:33 CDT 2009
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> 1. Coast to Crest Trail (palomino.pct at gmail.com)
> 2. Re: Shadow Lake (Aaron Wallace)
> 3. Re: Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
> (Stephen Clark)
> 4. Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails (armchairhiker)
> 5. Re: Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
> (Andrea Dinsmore)
> 6. Re: Coast to Crest Trail in San Diego County (AsABat)
> 7. Re: Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
> (Stephen Clark)
> 8. Dog magic... (maxsands at hotmail.com)
> 9. State parks closing (Reinhold Metzger)
> 10. PCT & JMT record attempts (Reinhold Metzger)
> 11. Hiking Solo (carol bruno)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 02:41:43 +0000
>From: palomino.pct at gmail.com
>Subject: [pct-l] Coast to Crest Trail
>To: "PCT-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>For a different kind of coast to crest experience, read Piper's tale of her hike from Santa Barbara to the PCT (on Trail Journals dot com).
>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:54:03 -0700
>From: "Aaron Wallace" <aaron at skeeky.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shadow Lake
>To: "Ellen Shopes" <igellen at comcast.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> <1A3B3ED5C7F10A459BA394B211D5572B5CAC7D at pl1600r-2.kssw.com>
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>The current regulations are here:
>
>http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/inyo/recreation/wild/sitespecific.shtml
>
>Essentially, due to the terrain, there is no camping at Shadow Lake or
>along Shadow Creek through Ediza Lake.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Ellen Shopes
>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:25 PM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Shadow Lake
>>
>> Anybody know the current camping restrictions in the Shadow
>> Lake area (near Agnew Meadow).
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Elderly Ellen
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:56:46 -0700
>From: Stephen Clark <rowriver at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>To: <armchairhiker at gmail.com>, PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <BAY102-W43FBB432FDFEF3CAE00B57DF4F0 at phx.gbl>
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>
>Good idea but it really only moves the problem to a different address or folder.
>One still has to wade through the piles of unnecessary babble to get the information that will help with effective hike planning which I believe is the primary purpose of the list.
>Oregon Bound
>
>> From: armchairhiker at gmail.com
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:21:51 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>> Another way is to get an email address to hold just this list or "hiking
>> stuff". Free emails at gmail and hotmail. Gmail has messages grouped by
>> subject.
>>
>> Also you can set up a "filter" to put all emails that start with [pct-l]
>> into a separate folder and that way you can free up your regular email inbox
>> and still receive the list.
>>
>> armchair
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> On Behalf Of Christopher Kopp
>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:14 PM
>> To: pct-l
>> Subject: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>> For what it's worth...
>> I subscribed a few months back and quickly realized I didn't want the
>> clutter of emails associated with it so I quickly unsubscribed and now enjoy
>> the list by going to this address:
>> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/
>> As you can see, you don't have to be receiving emails from the list to still
>> post on the list.
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:04:32 -0700
>From: armchairhiker <armchairhiker at gmail.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
>That's why gmail is my preferred method as it groups by subject.
>
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>
>
>armchair
>
>
>
>From: Stephen Clark [mailto:rowriver at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:57 PM
>To: armchairhiker at gmail.com; PCT
>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>
>
>
>Good idea but it really only moves the problem to a different address or
>folder.
>One still has to wade through the piles of unnecessary babble to get the
>information that will help with effective hike planning which I believe is
>the primary purpose of the list.
>Oregon Bound
>
>> From: armchairhiker at gmail.com
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:21:51 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>> Another way is to get an email address to hold just this list or "hiking
>> stuff". Free emails at gmail and hotmail. Gmail has messages grouped by
>> subject.
>>
>> Also you can set up a "filter" to put all emails that start with [pct-l]
>> into a separate folder and that way you can free up your regular email
>inbox
>> and still receive the list.
>>
>> armchair
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> On Behalf Of Christopher Kopp
>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:14 PM
>> To: pct-l
>> Subject: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>> For what it's worth...
>> I subscribed a few months back and quickly realized I didn't want the
>> clutter of emails associated with it so I quickly unsubscribed and now
>enjoy
>> the list by going to this address:
>> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/
>> As you can see, you don't have to be receiving emails from the list to
>still
>> post on the list.
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>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:12:01 -0700
>From: Andrea Dinsmore <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID:
> <f2a521470905302012u25917191v8165b72c352524c5 at mail.gmail.com>
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>If you all relax....things will calm down. Everyone knows what the "Boss
>Man" has requested. If you have a gripe with a post take to the
>author.....not the world. We all don't care. If you don't like the subject
>of a post....delete it. You guys are making life too complicated. We go
>through the same rants every year. The weather's nice. Go take a hike !!!
>
>PCT MOM
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:27:53 -0700
>From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Coast to Crest Trail in San Diego County
>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <910EE2701D234EED8C57531FFD1B8A9B at PC8>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Here's one that already exists (well, a few miles of bushwacking still)
>in San Diego County, meeting the PCT at the Mason Valley Truck Trail.
>Capt. Bivy did the trail a few months ago.
>
>http://www.seatoseatrail.org/
>
>AsABat
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:35:07 -0700
>From: Stephen Clark <rowriver at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>To: <armchairhiker at gmail.com>, PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <BAY102-W413444B2AE6734DB7334BBDF4F0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>Dosn't one have to be invited to g-mail to get an account?
>
>
>> From: armchairhiker at gmail.com
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:04:32 -0700
>> Subject: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>>
>>
>> That's why gmail is my preferred method as it groups by subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>> armchair
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Stephen Clark [mailto:rowriver at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:57 PM
>> To: armchairhiker at gmail.com; PCT
>> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>>
>>
>>
>> Good idea but it really only moves the problem to a different address or
>> folder.
>> One still has to wade through the piles of unnecessary babble to get the
>> information that will help with effective hike planning which I believe is
>> the primary purpose of the list.
>> Oregon Bound
>>
>> > From: armchairhiker at gmail.com
>> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:21:51 -0700
>> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>> >
>> > Another way is to get an email address to hold just this list or "hiking
>> > stuff". Free emails at gmail and hotmail. Gmail has messages grouped by
>> > subject.
>> >
>> > Also you can set up a "filter" to put all emails that start with [pct-l]
>> > into a separate folder and that way you can free up your regular email
>> inbox
>> > and still receive the list.
>> >
>> > armchair
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> > On Behalf Of Christopher Kopp
>> > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:14 PM
>> > To: pct-l
>> > Subject: [pct-l] Enjoying the PCT-L without getting all the emails
>> >
>> > For what it's worth...
>> > I subscribed a few months back and quickly realized I didn't want the
>> > clutter of emails associated with it so I quickly unsubscribed and now
>> enjoy
>> > the list by going to this address:
>> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/
>> > As you can see, you don't have to be receiving emails from the list to
>> still
>> > post on the list.
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:07:13 -0700
>From: <maxsands at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Dog magic...
>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <SNT117-DS242E2DF46BCCDE121AE665D04F0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>Hello,
>
>Fist time posting here.
>
>Many frustrated non hikers try to bring their stress to this list every year.
>
>Many nice (real people) also post here.
>
> I like animal (dog cat etc..) I do not like you hate propagating list serve useless self absorbed posters who ruin it for others (you are great goat mom and keep up the good work).
>
>If a dog brings a person to the PCT, than good on that dog (we will have one more person protecting the trail).
>
>If a small bird allows a dog (slow moving) to catch it than it was dead anyway.
>
>So, get a grip you negative posters...
>
>This is not about you!
>
>We hike, we talk....
>
>You hate!
>
>Go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:01:46 -0700
>From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] State parks closing
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <4A22558A.8000903 at cox.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Say Shelly,
>Did it ever occur to you that raising taxes is not the only way to balance a budget?
>Did you realize a budget can be balanced by cutting expenses?
>Could it be that California is spending beyond its means?
>
>JMT Reinhold
>--------------------------
>
>Shelly wrote:
>
>I completely agree as to having to pay for what you use. California, while I
>love my state, has one of the goofiest ways of funding itself. Our state
>money it almost completely tied to income and sales tax, so when the economy
>is in the tank so are the state coffers. I regularly hike in a local state
>park and I would love to donate money directly to keep my park up and
>running. However, all park fees go directly to the general fund and not
>necessarily into the state park system. The legislature can't raise taxes
>without a 2/3rds approval vote of the legislators (we are one of only two
>states in the US with this kind of limitation) so our ability to raise
>revenue is limited.Sorry if this off topic but it might help to understand
>why the park system, not to mention the entire state, is in such trouble.
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:54:02 -0700
>From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] PCT & JMT record attempts
>To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <4A226FDA.2080707 at cox.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Hi gang,
>Just to let you know that 2009 promises to be perhaps another exciting
>year for record attempts.
>My buddy Scott Williamson and Adam Bradley may go after Horton's PCT
>speed record.
>My buddy Michael Popov ( that scoundrel stole my crown) may again go
>after Sue (Stinky Feet) Johnston's supported JMT record.
>Michael is looking for resupply support team members.
>If you are interested in helping Michael bring back that crown to the
>boys camp, were it belongs, contact me of list.
>I mean, the girls beating the boys at our own game is totally
>unacceptable and we must reverse this.
>
>WARNING TO to the girls....Michael is tall, young, lean and extremly
>good looking....(almost as good looking as I am) and you will most
>likely fall hopelessly in love with him.
>
>JMT Reinhold
>Your good looking trail companion
>
>
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>
>Message: 11
>Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
>From: carol bruno <carolwbruno at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Hiking Solo
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <333309.30571.qm at web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>I am a section hiker and just finished closing in a gap on section?F.? I was very impressed with the thru hikers I met along the way.? They have all connected into a pretty tight-knit group and you would never guess that any of them started out solo.? Most of them---after weeks on the trail---were cleaner and healthier looking than I.? They seemed to be a very organized and disciplined group---determined to finish the trail.? But, more importantly, they?were all?having a good time.??Many commented on how wonderful?Californians were?to the hikers.? (Kudos to the trail angels!) ?BTW, the springs are running fine and cache at Kelso well stocked.? CQ
>
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