[pct-l] re; host / hustle houses

Thu May 21 13:21:42 CDT 2009

ATTN: HIKERS IN AGUA DULCE, CA. RESPECT is of the utmost... as a resident of
Agua Dulce, and Friend to the Saufleys (L-Rod) Donna/Jeff. I have been
helping out here and there. To the point I heard there was some fun with the
water... balloon fight and garden hose war, fun as It may be, HOT "no doubt"
Water in the desert is a precious commodity! The majority of water used at
this camp is primarily hauled in by truck and is "costly". Please be
respectful/mindful and don’t waste. Thanks Kary the REI shuttle ride

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Backpack Upgrade (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
   2. Re: Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
      (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
   3. Re: Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out! (Bob Bankhead)
   4. Re: Backpack Upgrade (CC Wishon)
   5. Re: Rather funny.. :) (jeff.singewald at comcast.net)
   6. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Paul Magnanti)
   7. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Marge)
   8. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Scott Bryce)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:42:47 -0700
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack Upgrade
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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	<1A0165A2-04E8-40C4-B72A-0B60044D0BE8 at santabarbarahikes.com>
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On May 21, 2009, at 5:11 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> I currently own an REI morning star backpack (
> http://www.epinions.com/pr-Backpacks-REI_Morning_Star_Backpack_55)  
> and was
> looking to upgrade to a larger, more lightweight style pack. Is there
> anywhere I can trade it in to get a discount. It's fairly new but  
> I've had
> it for a couple of years now. I just don't want it sitting in my  
> garage
> while I pay for a brand new pack. Any suggestions?
>
> -- 
> Sasha Leidman
> sleidman at gmail.com

You could try craigslist.

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:58:00 -0700
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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	<5DD1F65D-A24C-4545-AE36-FF3FBB95D33D at santabarbarahikes.com>
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On May 19, 2009, at 3:37 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:

> Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
Now that I think of it, last month when we did a section of the trail  
southbound I found the Wilderness Press guide book to be very  
difficult to follow. Some people, such as myself, actually like a  
verbose description of the trail and prefer it to something more  
terse. But the guide book is nearly impossible to follow backwards.  
So you could re-write the book with a southbound perspective. This  
might actually help more people choose to go south and maybe spread  
out the herd a little bit.

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:15:37 -0700
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
To: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com"
	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
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A south-bound version of the PCT Guidebook would be a nice project, but I
suspect it would have a rather tiny target market.

The two most popular guides to the John Muir Trail both have route
descriptions and mileages going both north- and south-bound in the same
volume, but we're only talking about 212 miles vs. 2600.

 "Guide to the John Muir Trail", by Thomas Winnett and Kathy Morey,
Wilderness Press, 2004.

"John Muir Trail", by Elizabeth Wenk and Kathy Morey, Wilderness Press,
2007.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com 
  To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!

  On May 19, 2009, at 3:37 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:

  Now that I think of it, last month when we did a section of the trail  
  southbound I found the Wilderness Press guide book to be very  
  difficult to follow. Some people, such as myself, actually like a  
  verbose description of the trail and prefer it to something more  
  terse. But the guide book is nearly impossible to follow backwards.  
  So you could re-write the book with a southbound perspective. This  
  might actually help more people choose to go south and maybe spread  
  out the herd a little bit.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:27:07 -0700
From: CC Wishon <ccwishon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack Upgrade
To: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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	<51466b970905210827g79c7801ele1f698bca4ac9c69 at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

I'm a first-time poster and also an REI employee. I just wanted to let you
know that if you're not a member and don't have the receipt for the
backpack, REI will only be able to give you credit for the backpack's
current worth (which decreases periodically -- if your pack is a couple
years old, chances are you'll be getting a much smaller refund than what
what you originally paid). Also, REI's guarantee is only good for the life
of the product, so unless it's in good condition (which it sounds like
yours is), you could have some problems taking it back. It's definitely
worth a try, especially if you're a member, but you may end up getting a
better price for it online. Good luck!

CC

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <
diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:

>
> On May 21, 2009, at 5:11 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >
> > I currently own an REI morning star backpack (
> > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Backpacks-REI_Morning_Star_Backpack_55)
> > and was
> > looking to upgrade to a larger, more lightweight style pack. Is there
> > anywhere I can trade it in to get a discount. It's fairly new but
> > I've had
> > it for a couple of years now. I just don't want it sitting in my
> > garage
> > while I pay for a brand new pack. Any suggestions?
> >
> > --
> > Sasha Leidman
> > sleidman at gmail.com
>
> You could try craigslist.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC)
From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
To: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Paul Magnanti
	<pmags at yahoo.com>
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<555894172.11891891242923990334.JavaMail.root at sz0106a.emeryville.ca.mail.com
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Asabat, 

I am thankful for the volunteers that provide the forum and moderate, but
with that said, the topic of guns is WAY more pertinent to the PCT than many
of the sexist threads and jokes that certain old timers on this list
frequently submit.? There have been many requests to put a stop to these
topics but they seem to persist. 

Frankly, the topic that Ned started was far my interesting in my opinion
than all that other crap that Switchback and Reinhold submit. 

Elevator 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> 
To: "Paul Magnanti" <pmags at yahoo.com>, "PCT MailingList"
<pct-l at backcountry.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:12:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :) 

? 
> Ryan said: 
> > Okay, both sides have weighed in on the gun issue. ?Let's drop it 
> > there. ?-Ryan 
> And Kerry replied: 
> 
> 
> >>if you don't like lively comments on important current events, just 
> delete 
> >>those emails. Don't tell others to stop thinking and debating 
because it 
> >>gives YOU a headache. 
> 
> Well, since Ryan is gracious enough to run the PCT-L, CDT-L and AT-L 
> mailing lists, provide the servers they run on and any bandwidth 
> we use for FREE..I think it it his right to tell us to STFU about the 
> issue. :-) 

And since Brick moderates this particular list, he can do the same. 

Thank you Ryan and Brick for providing this wonderful forum and for 
keeping us on topic. 

AsABat 

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
To: jeff.singewald at comcast.net, AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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We are guests in the home.

In this case the home is virtual.

Just as I would not drink in a hostel that said "No drugs or alcohol", I'll
abide but what our hosts
(Ryan and Brick) have said.

Hopefully most of you will, too.

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:09 -0600
From: "Marge" <marge at prothman.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
To: <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>,	"'AsABat'" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Cc: 'PCT MailingList' <pct-l at backcountry.net>,	'Paul Magnanti'
	<pmags at yahoo.com>
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I agree with Elevator and you all.....
Actually I learned something about guns in the Parks etc that I did not know
before.
Cheers,
Marge (the old gal) 

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of jeff.singewald at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:40 AM
To: AsABat
Cc: PCT MailingList; Paul Magnanti
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)

Asabat, 

I am thankful for the volunteers that provide the forum and moderate, but
with that said, the topic of guns is WAY more pertinent to the PCT than many
of the sexist threads and jokes that certain old timers on this list
frequently submit.? There have been many requests to put a stop to these
topics but they seem to persist. 

Frankly, the topic that Ned started was far my interesting in my opinion
than all that other crap that Switchback and Reinhold submit. 

Elevator 

----- Original Message -----
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
To: "Paul Magnanti" <pmags at yahoo.com>, "PCT MailingList"
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:12:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :) 

? 
> Ryan said: 
> > Okay, both sides have weighed in on the gun issue. ?Let's drop it 
> > there. ?-Ryan
> And Kerry replied: 
> 
> 
> >>if you don't like lively comments on important current events, just
> delete
> >>those emails. Don't tell others to stop thinking and debating
because it 
> >>gives YOU a headache. 
> 
> Well, since Ryan is gracious enough to run the PCT-L, CDT-L and AT-L 
> mailing lists, provide the servers they run on and any bandwidth we 
> use for FREE..I think it it his right to tell us to STFU about the 
> issue. :-)

And since Brick moderates this particular list, he can do the same. 

Thank you Ryan and Brick for providing this wonderful forum and for 
keeping us on topic. 

AsABat 

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:07:35 -0600
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
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Paul Magnanti wrote:
> We are guests in the home.
> 
> In this case the home is virtual.
> 
> Just as I would not drink in a hostel that said "No drugs or
> alcohol", I'll abide but what our hosts (Ryan and Brick) have said.
> 
> Hopefully most of you will, too.

So controversial subjects like Constitutional rights are off topic, but
degrading jokes about sexually exploiting women are fine?

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