[pct-l] Lift to Ramona
McKay, Spencer
sdmckay at uncc.edu
Sun May 17 16:17:13 CDT 2009
Is anyone available to give me a lift to Ramona today/this evening. I
need to get to an eye doctor in town monday morning and then back to
the trail tomorrow.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:44:45 -0700
> From: "McKay, Spencer" <sdmckay at uncc.edu>
> Subject: [pct-l] Eye problems
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> I was just wondering of anyone on the trail knows anything about any
> eye problems that could arise on the trail. I started In campo on 5/13
> and am now spending my second day in Julian because I have some kind
> of infection/scratches in my right eye. I am a contact wearer and took
> good care of my eyes the first few nights on the trail. Any ideas from
> contact wearers or knowledgeable people on the subject would be of
> great help.
>
> Spencer McKay
> aka Warpzilla
>
> On May 17, 2009, at 9:34 AM, "pct-l-request at backcountry.net" <pct-l-request at backcountry.net
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>> 1. Peek (Keith Robertson)
>> 2. Re: a** of 2009 (Len Glassner)
>> 3. Bad log...Danny, thank you so much for the heads up
>> (Georgi Heitman)
>> 4. Water - Section D - Grassy Hollow (AsABat)
>> 5. Peek (Postholer)
>> 6. Re: Peek (Halfmile)
>> 7. tent footprint (ken close)
>> 8. Water Report Section D (Matthew Edwards)
>> 9. Re: tent footprint (Frank Dumville)
>> 10. Looking for Nor Cal/Oregon/Washinton section to hike now
>> (Robert Mittman)
>> 11. Re: Phone service (Trekker4 at aol.com)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Keith Robertson <surferkeith at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Peek
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Ice-axe, I assume that your Peek works in a lot of places as I see
>> your submissions often. Have you had areas where you cannot send
>> messages? I'm thinking about a sat phone for the trail but want to
>> consider lighter simpler options.
>>
>> Thanks,? Handyrock
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:25:23 -0700
>> From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] a** of 2009
>> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1862be60905161125j143bcf92l253a68be44f08aa2 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> 'Quizmaster' signed off via trail marker writing at I10, saying
>> section A and B completed, back next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> The writings have continued on many markers, all the way to
>>> Idyllwild.
>>> They are still only on one type of marker, the flexible, rust
>>> colored
>>> ones with 'PCT' against a yellow background.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The graffiti takes the form of a trivia question on one marker
>>>> post,
>>>> followed by the answer on the next. ?It's not low-brow stuff. It's
>>>> being done by an intelligent but malevolent person. ?I don't think
>>>> this person will respond to scoldings.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe another hiker, preferably about 250 and 6-4, will catch them
>>>> in
>>>> the act and straighten things out. ?Or maybe it will stop when the
>>>> markers move to trees and other things that don't lend themselves
>>>> to
>>>> several word comments. ?I'm only at mile 109, and have seen for
>>>> just
>>>> 50 miles, maybe that's it.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Someone is using a marker to write clever things on many of the
>>>>> trail
>>>>> marker posts. It seems to have started at Mason Valley truck
>>>>> trail,
>>>>> and has persisted so far (Warner Springs).
>>>>>
>>>>> None of this was there when I came through on 4/1
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering how far this person has gotten. ?Any other hikers
>>>>> on
>>>>> the list, are you or are you not seeing this where you are? Sort
>>>>> of
>>>>> trying to get an idea where this person is at.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you started 4/10, 4/15, 4/20, was the graffiti there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure about bringing this up, as it likely adds to the
>>>>> acknowledgement this person wants. Maybe if folks are watching for
>>>>> him/her it might have an impact. But probably not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:18:53 -0700
>> From: Georgi Heitman <bobbnweav at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Bad log...Danny, thank you so much for the heads up
>> To: airecrew at netzero.net, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
>> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <2a5b10b50905161418r639c275bseb567e579f05c96d at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> ..Danny, thank you so much for the heads up to riders...I hope
>> hikers can
>> pass the word along. Equestrians very often do fewer forward miles
>> a day
>> than hikers do as their animals must be allowed to graze where ever
>> there's
>> an opportunity. Grain alone isn't enough to keep meat on their
>> bones and
>> healthy. So maybe some SOBO section hiker can warn Mendorider and I
>> think
>> there might still be one more rider.out there. Thanks,
>> Jollylopper!!!
>> And I hope that riders remember that the Hideaway at Old Station is
>> horse-friendly, there's plenty of nice green grass for grazing and
>> the
>> creek's right close, but closed to feet and bodies, last year all
>> the silt
>> that was raised wound up fouling our nice downstream neighbor's water
>> system. Don't want that!!
>> Thanks....
>> FireFly
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:31:30 -0700
>> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Water - Section D - Grassy Hollow
>> To: <pct2009 at yahoogroups.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID: <C523A90B082B426BA74A4B30A1F954D8 at PC8>
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>>
>> The water SHOULD have been on at Grassy Hollow Visitor Center and
>> Jackson Flat, but the water tank was empty this morning and they are
>> not
>> sure what's wrong as the pumps are running. Meanwhile, assume no
>> water
>> at Grassy Hollow and Jackson Flat, but you might still check and see
>> if
>> it gets turned back on.
>>
>> AsABat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:04:15 -0700
>> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Peek
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Cc: surferkeith at sbcglobal.net
>> Message-ID: <049101c9d683$05a1a7f0$80d28304 at Snoopy>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> A Peek device connects just like your cell phone does. If you have
>> connectivity with your cell phone, smartphone, blackberry or
>> whatever, they
>> are equivalent.
>>
>> With a Peek you can only send emails, no voice that I'm aware of.
>> With the
>> other mentioned devices you potentially have it all, voice, email,
>> internet,
>> SMS.
>>
>> Connectivity for voice is less reliable than data such SMS or email.
>> You may
>> get an email through where you have no voice connection. If you can
>> send a
>> message with a Peek, you'll probably be able to with your cell/
>> smartphone.
>>
>> With a sat phone you have voice from everywhere, anytime. 2 years
>> ago we
>> actually had a journalist who was updating their journal using a
>> Pocketmail
>> across a sat phone. Now that's timely! You just have to justify the
>> cost.
>>
>> -postholer
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Trails : http://Postholer.Com
>> Journals : http://Postholer.Com/journal
>> Mobile : http://Postholer.Com/mobi
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:15:11 -0700
>> From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Peek
>> To: surferkeith at sbcglobal.net
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <324d57760905161815v3cf84702jc1886a048a8bf689 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Handyrock.
>> Peek uses the T-Mobile cell phone network so it should work wherever
>> T-Mobile cell phones work. It will be interesting to hear from Ice-
>> axe
>> how and where it works on the trail as I don't have many reports from
>> T-Mobile user in the cell phone reports I am compiling here:
>> http://www.pctmap.net/cell/index.html
>>
>> I have not used a Peek, but it's main advantages appear to be its low
>> cost and that it does not require a long term contract. That might be
>> enough to make the device appeal to some hikers.
>>
>> It is an email only device so you can't make voice calls with it.
>> This
>> seems kind of limiting to me, not that I make all that many phone
>> calls while I am hiking, but I do occasionally need to make a call
>> and
>> many devices (Blackberry, iPhone, window mobile phones) will do both
>> email and voice and do both well. I am especially a fan of the
>> Blackberry for use on the trail although I am using an iPhone now as
>> my normal phone.
>>
>> Cost may be an issue for some hikers with these smartphones as you
>> typically need to sign up to a two-year commitment for a $30-40 a
>> month data plan on top of the $30-40 a month (minimum) voice plan.
>> The
>> phones can run hundreds of dollars too.
>>
>> I have been experimenting recently with prepaid cellular service.
>> Most
>> prepaid cellular companies don't allow smartphones, but Pageplus
>> Cellular does ( www.pagepluscellular.com ). Pageplus uses the Verizon
>> network. I have recently been testing a Blackberry 8703e I purchased
>> used but in like new condition for $79 which works perfectly on
>> Pageplus. Calls will be about 6-7 cents per minute and in my initial
>> testing data charges probably will be well under $5 a month. My
>> initial reaction to my Blackberry/Pageplus experiment has been very
>> favorable, and for me could cut my phone bills in more than half
>> compared to my iPhone or the ATT Blackberry I used for two years
>> before it. The downsides are that Pageplus/Verizon prepaid may not
>> work everywhere normal Verizon phones work and the 8703e is an older
>> phone with no camera and almost no multimedia functions. It does do
>> email and voice exceptionally well, however.
>>
>> -Halfmile
>>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Keith Robertson
>> <surferkeith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Ice-axe, I assume that your Peek works in a lot of places as I see
>>> your submissions often. Have you had areas where you cannot send
>>> messages? I'm thinking about a sat phone for the trail but want to
>>> consider lighter simpler options.
>>>
>>> Thanks,? Handyrock
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: ken close <kenclose01 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] tent footprint
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <31753.42540.qm at web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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>>
>> I plan to hike the PCT in 2011.? I'm planning now and was wondering
>> if there are any thru-hikers that could share their thoughts on
>> footprints (to bring or not to bring).? Any insight would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Water Report Section D
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <6437342.39603.1242572919768.JavaMail.root at ip-10-251-38-48.ec2.internal
>>>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>>
>> Mile 418.7 Mill Creek Ranger station water at office before picnic
>> area. water full of iron. Rangers may leave bottled water outback.
>> Beware: This is the last water till 432.2 (There was a pool of water
>> at 425.7... Right under the "poison creek" sign.
>> Mile 430.7 Messenger Flats campground NO water
>> Mile 432..1 Just before PCT crosses Moody canyon road. Trickle found
>> in gully on trail. Approx 1/10 liter per minute
>>
>> Sent from the Trail on my Peek
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:05:11 -0700
>> From: "Frank Dumville" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tent footprint
>> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID: <CF27B7176CD04367942856A6DDCBA689 at AdminPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> If you are talking about one of those heavy footprints that are made
>> by the tent manufactures to fit your tent I would say no.
>>
>> Instead, bring a piece of tyvek or plastic ground cloth. This will
>> serve the same purpose to help protect your tent floor. It's cheap
>> and easily replaceable if it wears out. That's what I used, but it
>> probably isn't necessary.
>>
>> The real reason to have a ground cloth is that there will be many
>> nights that you won't want to pitch your tent and you will just lay
>> out the ground cloth to cowboy camp. You could use the tent as a
>> ground cloth but I think this may put too much wear on the top and
>> mesh that you will want to be intact in bad weather.
>>
>> I would also suggest not spending too much time or money on most
>> gear just yet. As you do your planning you will find many different
>> suggestions on gear that you will have to sort through to decide
>> what's best for you. The one exception would be to find the foot
>> wear that will work best for you and start hiking with it.
>>
>> Snap
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:11:03 -0700
>> From: Robert Mittman <robert at mittman.org>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Nor Cal/Oregon/Washinton section to hike
>> now
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <8DF34713-7F1A-462A-A803-B816506A9098 at mittman.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> My daughter and I started Section A from Campo a week ago. We made
>> it to Julian on Thursday, but found the heat too much for us and
>> decided to bail for another, more temperate section. Many thanks to
>> Scout and Frodo for their gracious help getting us to, and back away
>> from, the trail. We're back home in the Bay Area now, regrouping,
>> healing my blisters, and cutting 7-8 pounds off each of our base
>> packs.
>>
>> (Picking up on an earlier thread on the Kitchen Creek helicopter
>> crash, we were on KC Road right when they blew up the unexploded
>> ordnance on Tuesday. A ranger picked us up in his truck and dropped
>> us off down an embankment across the road where we'd be sheltered.
>> The blast itself was anticlimactic. And more than an hour later than
>> they told us it would be.)
>>
>> We're looking for advice and current information on what section to
>> hike for the next 3-4 weeks, so a 300-400 mile section (I'm not
>> moving too fast right now). Frodo got info from FireFly that I copy
>> below that suggests the Rim is good now, but that there's not really
>> a long section open. Any ideas?? Starting from Soda Springs, maybe?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> FireFly's message:
>>
>> .we've had rain to about 6500 feet w/in the last week and a half.
>> The PCT is clear from Old Station to Burney Falls and for probably a
>> day or maybe two beyond that. From Red's Mt. to Ash Camp, further
>> north toward Castle Crags St. Pk. is probably still snowed in because
>> of the last rain/snow that came thru and the east/north facing
>> slopes. The trail from Belden to Old Station reaches 7000 feet
>> somewhere, I believe, again, I doubt it's open yet, tho I'll try to
>> check w/ Drakesbad to see what's happening there. This would be a
>> good time to hike the Rim, in fact, I have a hiker coming in tomorrow
>> from ID. to do just that. Problem is that there's no bail out point
>> beyond Burney Falls, so even tho the trail might be open for another
>> day or even two, if it becomes blocked w/ snow, hikers either
>> backtrack or they bushwhack thru the snow east to Hwy 89. Hikers who
>> found themselves in that position in '06 said it was tough. Don't
>> know what it's like beyond Castle Crags, but a small system came thru
>> just north of us yesterday and today...we got sprinkled on, don't
>> know the freezing level, but that area probably got more moisture
>> than we did here. At the same time, it's supposed to reach 105
>> degrees in Redding in the next day or two. Go figure.
>> But...the Rim is very doable at the moment, so depending on how long
>> a section they want to do......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:10 EDT
>> From: Trekker4 at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Phone service
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <c81.4f6b3a42.37419646 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> In all this chatter about gadgets, some of which is beyond me, I
>> don't
>> think anyone has pointed out that unless one, for instance me
>> living in TX, is
>> on a national plan of some sort, one would not have cell phone
>> service in
>> CA, OR, or WA. It doesn't matter whose network you're on, so again,
>> think
>> KISS.
>> And again, your phone probably only puts out about .3 watts; even
>> God's plan and service won't help you if you're in the wrong spot,
>> on the wrong
>> day, in the wrong weather, got a big person standing too close, got
>> your
>> back to the signal, have your head tilted wrong, standing in front
>> of the
>> wrong tree, or in the wrong mood.
>>
>> Bob "Trekker"
>> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
>> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:49:33 -0700
> From: "Frank Dumville" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Out of Contact Hikers - A suggestion
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <F58EF7F08B9B4712A9B391A281597D2D at AdminPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The recent incident with missing hikers inspired these suggestions
> which aren't new, but may be forgotten in this day of instant
> communications.
>
> Communications devices fail. Plan on it.
>
> If you are going to have someone follow your hike and worry about
> you, establish a procedure they can use if they don't hear from you.
>
> Have a primary contact. Commit to when they should initiate a
> search. Write it down so there is no confusion. Hikers have a hard
> commitment to initiate communications prior to this time. Loss of
> service or battery failure is no excuse for not doing this.
>
> If you don't want to commit to a schedule, that's fine. Just tell
> people you'll be back in a year and not to worry.
>
> Snap
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:55:00 -0700
> From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Phone service
> To: PCTL Listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <2CAC13A4-288F-4E1F-B5FF-2A5EFFE01C4C at burge.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> Most plans these days are national and even if yours isn't, you
> probably have "roaming".
>
> Even if you choose not to make "casual" calls while roaming; you can
> still make 911 calls.
>
> BillB
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Trekker4 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> In all this chatter about gadgets, some of which is beyond me, I
>> don't
>> think anyone has pointed out that unless one, for instance me
>> living in TX, is
>> on a national plan of some sort, one would not have cell phone
>> service in
>> CA, OR, or WA. It doesn't matter whose network you're on, so again,
>> think
>> KISS.
>> And again, your phone probably only puts out about .3 watts; even
>> God's plan and service won't help you if you're in the wrong spot,
>> on the wrong
>> day, in the wrong weather, got a big person standing too close, got
>> your
>> back to the signal, have your head tilted wrong, standing in front
>> of the
>> wrong tree, or in the wrong mood.
>>
>> Bob "Trekker"
>> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
>> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:06:47 -0700
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Phone service
> To: Trekker4 at aol.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <4A104427.4090103 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> AFAIK, all the national plans offer nation wide calling as long as you
> can connect with their network no matter where in the US you live.
> Rates vary with plan and roaming (out of local area) can be high.
>
> If you want a cell phone for just your hikes, look into the prepaid
> plans -- some have low monthly fees but relatively high per minute
> fees. But if the phone is only for urgent needs and to occasionally
> tell someone back home that your are OK or update you shipments,
> this is
> probably the best option.
>
> Something else to check out -- look into the calling cards available
> in
> many stores. You can use them with any land-line including pay phones
> (if you can find one) and not worry about running up someone else's
> phone bill or reimbursing them.
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> He who finishes last, wins! <>
>
>
>
> Trekker4 at aol.com wrote:
>> In all this chatter about gadgets, some of which is beyond me, I
>> don't
>> think anyone has pointed out that unless one, for instance me
>> living in TX, is
>> on a national plan of some sort, one would not have cell phone
>> service in
>> CA, OR, or WA. It doesn't matter whose network you're on, so
>> again, think
>> KISS.
>> And again, your phone probably only puts out about .3 watts; even
>> God's plan and service won't help you if you're in the wrong spot,
>> on the wrong
>> day, in the wrong weather, got a big person standing too close,
>> got your
>> back to the signal, have your head tilted wrong, standing in front
>> of the
>> wrong tree, or in the wrong mood.
>>
>> Bob "Trekker"
>> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
>> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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