[pct-l] Eye problems

McKay, Spencer sdmckay at uncc.edu
Sun May 17 11:44:45 CDT 2009


I was just wondering of anyone on the trail knows anything about any  
eye problems that could arise on the trail. I started In campo on 5/13  
and am now spending my second day in Julian because I have some kind  
of infection/scratches in my right eye. I am a contact wearer and took  
good care of my eyes the first few nights on the trail. Any ideas from  
contact wearers or knowledgeable people on the subject would be of  
great help.

Spencer McKay
aka Warpzilla

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>   7. tent footprint (ken close)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Keith Robertson <surferkeith at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Peek
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> Ice-axe, I assume that your Peek works in a lot of places as I see  
> your submissions often. Have you had areas where you cannot send  
> messages? I'm thinking about a sat phone for the trail but want to  
> consider lighter simpler options.
>
> Thanks,? Handyrock
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:25:23 -0700
> From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] a** of 2009
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 'Quizmaster' signed off via trail marker writing at I10, saying
> section A and B completed, back next year.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> The writings have continued on many markers, all the way to  
>> Idyllwild.
>> They are still only on one type of marker, the flexible, rust colored
>> ones with 'PCT' against a yellow background.
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> The graffiti takes the form of a trivia question on one marker post,
>>> followed by the answer on the next. ?It's not low-brow stuff. It's
>>> being done by an intelligent but malevolent person. ?I don't think
>>> this person will respond to scoldings.
>>>
>>> Maybe another hiker, preferably about 250 and 6-4, will catch them  
>>> in
>>> the act and straighten things out. ?Or maybe it will stop when the
>>> markers move to trees and other things that don't lend themselves to
>>> several word comments. ?I'm only at mile 109, and have seen for just
>>> 50 miles, maybe that's it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Someone is using a marker to write clever things on many of the  
>>>> trail
>>>> marker posts. It seems to have started at Mason Valley truck trail,
>>>> and has persisted so far (Warner Springs).
>>>>
>>>> None of this was there when I came through on 4/1
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering how far this person has gotten. ?Any other hikers on
>>>> the list, are you or are you not seeing this where you are? Sort of
>>>> trying to get an idea where this person is at.
>>>>
>>>> If you started 4/10, 4/15, 4/20, was the graffiti there?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure about bringing this up, as it likely adds to the
>>>> acknowledgement this person wants. Maybe if folks are watching for
>>>> him/her it might have an impact. But probably not.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:18:53 -0700
> From: Georgi Heitman <bobbnweav at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Bad log...Danny, thank you so much for the heads up
> To: airecrew at netzero.net, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
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> ..Danny, thank you so much for the heads up to riders...I hope  
> hikers can
> pass the word along.  Equestrians very often do fewer forward miles  
> a day
> than hikers do as their animals must be allowed to graze where ever  
> there's
> an opportunity.  Grain alone isn't enough to keep meat on their  
> bones and
> healthy.  So maybe some SOBO section hiker can warn Mendorider and I  
> think
> there might still be one more rider.out there.  Thanks, Jollylopper!!!
> And I hope that riders remember that the Hideaway at Old Station is
> horse-friendly, there's plenty of nice green grass for grazing and the
> creek's right close, but closed to feet and bodies, last year all  
> the silt
> that was raised wound up fouling our nice downstream neighbor's water
> system.  Don't want that!!
> Thanks....
> FireFly
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:31:30 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Water - Section D - Grassy Hollow
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> The water SHOULD have been on at Grassy Hollow Visitor Center and
> Jackson Flat, but the water tank was empty this morning and they are  
> not
> sure what's wrong as the pumps are running. Meanwhile, assume no water
> at Grassy Hollow and Jackson Flat, but you might still check and see  
> if
> it gets turned back on.
>
> AsABat
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:04:15 -0700
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Peek
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: surferkeith at sbcglobal.net
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> A Peek device connects just like your cell phone does. If you have
> connectivity with your cell phone, smartphone, blackberry or  
> whatever, they
> are equivalent.
>
> With a Peek you can only send emails, no voice that I'm aware of.  
> With the
> other mentioned devices you potentially have it all, voice, email,  
> internet,
> SMS.
>
> Connectivity for voice is less reliable than data such SMS or email.  
> You may
> get an email through where you have no voice connection. If you can  
> send a
> message with a Peek, you'll probably be able to with your cell/ 
> smartphone.
>
> With a sat phone you have voice from everywhere, anytime. 2 years  
> ago we
> actually had a journalist who was updating their journal using a  
> Pocketmail
> across a sat phone. Now that's timely! You just have to justify the  
> cost.
>
> -postholer
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:15:11 -0700
> From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Peek
> To: surferkeith at sbcglobal.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Handyrock.
> Peek uses the T-Mobile cell phone network so it should work wherever
> T-Mobile cell phones work. It will be interesting to hear from Ice-axe
> how and where it works on the trail as I don't have many reports from
> T-Mobile user in the cell phone reports I am compiling here:
> http://www.pctmap.net/cell/index.html
>
> I have not used a Peek, but it's main advantages appear to be its low
> cost and that it does not require a long term contract. That might be
> enough to make the device appeal to some hikers.
>
> It is an email only device so you can't make voice calls with it. This
> seems kind of limiting to me, not that I make all that many phone
> calls while I am hiking, but I do occasionally need to make a call and
> many devices (Blackberry, iPhone, window mobile phones) will do both
> email and voice and do both well. I am especially a fan of the
> Blackberry for use on the trail although I am using an iPhone now as
> my normal phone.
>
> Cost may be an issue for some hikers with these smartphones as you
> typically need to sign up to a two-year commitment for a $30-40 a
> month data plan on top of the $30-40 a month (minimum) voice plan. The
> phones can run hundreds of dollars too.
>
> I have been experimenting recently with prepaid cellular service. Most
> prepaid cellular companies don't allow smartphones, but Pageplus
> Cellular does ( www.pagepluscellular.com ). Pageplus uses the Verizon
> network. I have recently been testing a Blackberry 8703e I purchased
> used but in like new condition for $79 which works perfectly on
> Pageplus. Calls will be about 6-7 cents per minute and in my initial
> testing data charges probably will be well under $5 a month. My
> initial reaction to my Blackberry/Pageplus experiment has been very
> favorable, and for me could cut my phone bills in more than half
> compared to my iPhone or the ATT Blackberry I used for two years
> before it. The downsides are that Pageplus/Verizon prepaid may not
> work everywhere normal Verizon phones work and the 8703e is an older
> phone with no camera and almost no multimedia functions. It does do
> email and voice exceptionally well, however.
>
> -Halfmile
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Keith Robertson
> <surferkeith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Ice-axe, I assume that your Peek works in a lot of places as I see  
>> your submissions often. Have you had areas where you cannot send  
>> messages? I'm thinking about a sat phone for the trail but want to  
>> consider lighter simpler options.
>>
>> Thanks,? Handyrock
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ken close <kenclose01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] tent footprint
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I plan to hike the PCT in 2011.? I'm planning now and was wondering  
> if there are any thru-hikers that could share their thoughts on  
> footprints (to bring or not to bring).? Any insight would be great.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Water Report Section D
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Mile 418.7 Mill Creek Ranger station water at office before picnic  
> area. water full of iron. Rangers may leave bottled water outback.  
> Beware: This is the last water till 432.2 (There was a pool of water  
> at 425.7... Right under the "poison creek" sign.
> Mile 430.7 Messenger Flats campground NO water
> Mile 432..1 Just before PCT crosses Moody canyon road. Trickle found  
> in gully on trail. Approx 1/10 liter per minute
>
> Sent from the Trail on my Peek
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:05:11 -0700
> From: "Frank Dumville" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tent footprint
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Ken,
>
> If you are talking about one of those heavy footprints that are made  
> by the tent manufactures to fit your tent I would say no.
>
> Instead, bring a piece of tyvek or plastic ground cloth. This will  
> serve the same purpose to help protect your tent floor. It's cheap  
> and easily replaceable if it wears out. That's what I used, but it  
> probably isn't necessary.
>
> The real reason to have a ground cloth is that there will be many  
> nights that you won't want to pitch your tent and you will just lay  
> out the ground cloth to cowboy camp. You could use the tent as a  
> ground cloth but I think this may put too much wear on the top and  
> mesh that you will want to be intact in bad weather.
>
> I would also suggest not spending too much time or money on most  
> gear just yet. As you do your planning you will find many different  
> suggestions on gear that you will have to sort through to decide  
> what's best for you. The one exception would be to find the foot  
> wear that will work best for you and start hiking with it.
>
> Snap
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:11:03 -0700
> From: Robert Mittman <robert at mittman.org>
> Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Nor Cal/Oregon/Washinton section to hike
>    now
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> My daughter and I started Section A from Campo a week ago.  We made
> it to Julian on Thursday, but found the heat too much for us and
> decided to bail for another, more temperate section.  Many thanks to
> Scout and Frodo for their gracious help getting us to, and back away
> from, the trail.  We're back home in the Bay Area now, regrouping,
> healing my blisters, and cutting 7-8 pounds off each of our base  
> packs.
>
> (Picking up on an earlier thread on the Kitchen Creek helicopter
> crash, we were on KC Road right when they blew up the unexploded
> ordnance on Tuesday. A ranger picked us up in his truck and dropped
> us off down an embankment across the road where we'd be sheltered.
> The blast itself was anticlimactic. And more than an hour later than
> they told us it would be.)
>
> We're looking for advice and current information on what section to
> hike for the next 3-4 weeks, so a 300-400 mile section (I'm not
> moving too fast right now).  Frodo got info from FireFly that I copy
> below that suggests the Rim is good now, but that there's not really
> a long section open.  Any ideas??  Starting from Soda Springs, maybe?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Robert
>
> FireFly's message:
>
> .we've had rain to about 6500 feet w/in the last week and a half.
> The PCT is clear from Old Station to Burney Falls and for probably a
> day or maybe two beyond that.  From Red's Mt. to Ash Camp, further
> north toward Castle Crags St. Pk. is probably still snowed in because
> of the last rain/snow that came thru and the east/north facing
> slopes.  The trail from Belden to Old Station reaches 7000 feet
> somewhere, I believe, again, I doubt it's open yet, tho I'll try to
> check w/ Drakesbad to see what's happening there.   This would be a
> good time to hike the Rim, in fact, I have a hiker coming in tomorrow
> from ID. to do just that.  Problem is that there's no bail out point
> beyond Burney Falls, so even tho the trail might be open for another
> day or even two, if it becomes blocked w/ snow, hikers either
> backtrack or they bushwhack thru the snow east to Hwy 89.  Hikers who
> found themselves in that position in '06 said it was tough.  Don't
> know what it's like beyond Castle Crags, but a small system came thru
> just north of us yesterday and today...we got sprinkled on, don't
> know the freezing level, but that area probably got more moisture
> than we did here.  At the same time, it's supposed to reach 105
> degrees in Redding in the next day or two.  Go figure.
> But...the Rim is very doable at the moment, so depending on how long
> a section they want to do......
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:10 EDT
> From: Trekker4 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Phone service
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> In all this chatter about gadgets, some of which is  beyond me, I  
> don't
> think anyone has pointed out that unless one, for instance me   
> living in TX, is
> on a national plan of some sort, one would not have cell  phone  
> service in
> CA, OR, or WA. It doesn't matter whose network you're on, so  again,  
> think
> KISS.
>    And again, your phone probably only puts out about  .3 watts; even
> God's plan and service won't help you if you're in the wrong  spot,  
> on the wrong
> day, in the wrong weather, got a big person standing too  close, got  
> your
> back to the signal, have your head tilted wrong, standing in  front  
> of the
> wrong tree, or in the wrong mood.
>
> Bob  "Trekker"
> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
> Naturalized Citizen - Republic  of Texas
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