[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 17, Issue 40

Tue May 12 00:13:33 CDT 2009

Newbie Intro: Fellow Equestrian, Sorry to hear about rider Susan and her
horse (Port) hope they are well!!!
 My name is Kary and I am interested in speaking with anyone who may be able
to help or send me the right direction for info/help... I am/will be doing a
ride-thru next year depart April 2010 starting in Agua Dulce, Ca. as that is
where I live... on up to Can. Looking for a buddy that would be interested
in joining me, for all or part. Please contact. karylepre at earthlink.net
Thanks and safe travel to you all!

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Today's Topics:

   1. California bound ? (Jim and_or Ginny Owen)
   2. Fwd:  Conditions between Hway 74 and Saddle Junction
      (Len Glassner)
   3. Re: a** of 2009 (Len Glassner)
   4. Water Report sectionC (Matthew Edwards)
   5. Horse at fish creek, (jereenanderson at yahoo.com)
   6. Re: Water Report sectionC (The Incredible Bulk)
   7. Help! (JOHN F PATTERSON)
   8. Water Report sectionC (enyapjr at comcast.net)
   9. Re: a** of 2009 (Nathan Miller)
  10. Re: Water Report sectionC (AsABat)
  11.  Horse at fish creek, (wctrekker at dslextreme.com)
  12. Re: Help! (Tortoise)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:50:36 -0400
From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] California bound ?
To: at-l <at-l at backcountry.net>, cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>, pct-l
	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <BAY115-W40ECF40B8E7301A64999AAA0630 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"

 Told ya we were gonna hike ? so we are.   My daughter got married on
Saturday 
so now we?re free to go play again. Tomorrow night we?ll be in Big Bear, CA
and 
Wednesday we?ll start hiking north on the PCT.   Won?t start at Campo (the
border) 
cause it?s too late in the season to be starting that much desert.  Big Bear
is about 
300 miles north (trail miles, that is) north of the border.  

This is a test for the knee.  We?ll see how far we get, but the objective is
Canada by 
Christmas.  But I won?t tell you how wrong that statement is.  

In any case, this is plan A.  Yes ? we also have Plans B & C.  After all, I
DID do 
contingency planning for spacecraft programs for a long, long time and it?s
a hard 
habit to break. 

We?ll let you know about the next step ? when it?s history.  

Walk softly,
Jim

http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:14:18 -0700
From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd:  Conditions between Hway 74 and Saddle Junction
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID:
	<1862be60905111314k36bbcd1et3121d3aacc03bbcb at mail.gmail.com>
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I did it yesterday and there's essentially no snow. ?A couple of
piles to walk over between Tahquitz peak trail and Saddle Junction.
Thank goodness, the hike up left me feeling drained as it is.

>
>
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> I trust that there are thrus and others who have walked this section of
trail recently. I am interested in snow conditions between Pine-to-Palms
Highway (74) and Saddle Junction. Is there still snow left? How much? If I
walk up Devil's Slide and then head south from the junction, are there any
adverse trail conditions that I will encounter?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Pieces
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:13:33 -0700
From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] a** of 2009
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID:
	<1862be60905111413j5a764a8ke2efbbf49e87bf56 at mail.gmail.com>
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The writings have continued on many markers, all the way to Idyllwild.
They are still only on one type of marker, the flexible, rust colored
ones with 'PCT' against a yellow background.

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
> The graffiti takes the form of a trivia question on one marker post,
> followed by the answer on the next. ?It's not low-brow stuff. It's
> being done by an intelligent but malevolent person. ?I don't think
> this person will respond to scoldings.
>
> Maybe another hiker, preferably about 250 and 6-4, will catch them in
> the act and straighten things out. ?Or maybe it will stop when the
> markers move to trees and other things that don't lend themselves to
> several word comments. ?I'm only at mile 109, and have seen for just
> 50 miles, maybe that's it.
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Someone is using a marker to write clever things on many of the trail
>> marker posts. It seems to have started at Mason Valley truck trail,
>> and has persisted so far (Warner Springs).
>>
>> None of this was there when I came through on 4/1
>>
>> Just wondering how far this person has gotten. ?Any other hikers on
>> the list, are you or are you not seeing this where you are? Sort of
>> trying to get an idea where this person is at.
>>
>> If you started 4/10, 4/15, 4/20, was the graffiti there?
>>
>> Not sure about bringing this up, as it likely adds to the
>> acknowledgement this person wants. Maybe if folks are watching for
>> him/her it might have an impact. But probably not.
>>
>

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Water Report sectionC
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID:

<11232783.105489.1242078201287.JavaMail.root at ip-10-250-15-66.ec2.internal>

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IMPORTANT!
Water at 332..8
Stream is flowing
Listed as dry in water report.. NOT TRUE!
Iceaxe

Sent from the Trail on my Peek

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: jereenanderson at yahoo.com
Subject: [pct-l] Horse at fish creek,
To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Lisa Wood <LFWood at sandiego.gov>
Message-ID: <218389.25889.qm at web58607.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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Amanda, 
The riders name is Susan Bates. She and her husband, Burton, have come out
from Arkansas. 
I have been assisting her on her thru ride mostly via e-mail. She called me
shortly after the accident and again this morning. Her horse is "pretty
scratched up but otherwise seems to be OK".
She had come around a corner and came to a very large down tree. The trail
was very narrow. She first tried to back him up. When that did'nt work she
tried to turn him around and he slipped down on the loose scree - to a wide
ledge, fortunately. She found a place where she thought she could get him
back up. That did not work either as he went over backwards. His saddle and
saddlebags apparently cushioned his fall and saved him from possible serious
injury. She left a note by him and went for help. Along came 10 hikers, one
of them a very experienced horseman from Italy. Working together they made?a
route back to the trail. 
Susan,Burton, and the horse "Port",are now at a Forest Service Camp called
Heart Bar and will rest Port for 2 or 3 days and then trailer down to have a
Veterinarian check out Port.
MendoRider/Ed Anderson

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:29:50 -0700
From: The Incredible Bulk <ki6asp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Report sectionC
To: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID:
	<79767b570905111529m5cf86282i4fcbfa8c05e305a8 at mail.gmail.com>
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Iceaxe, please post this message to pct2009 at yahoogroups.com. Many
thrus are not monitoring pct-l.

On Monday, May 11, 2009, Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com> wrote:
> IMPORTANT!
> Water at 332..8
> Stream is flowing
> Listed as dry in water report.. NOT TRUE!
> Iceaxe
>
> Sent from the Trail on my Peek
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-- 
Tom KI6ASP
The Incredible Bulk
pctaddict.blogspot.com

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:54:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOHN F PATTERSON <yuppatt at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Help!
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <522987.67106.qm at web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I have made submissions here for many years . 
I need help . 
Why do my submissions now get broken up - question marks , changed order?,
broken paragraphs , etc .
I never had this .
Is very frustrating . ???
Anyone ?
?
Rafter Jack 

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: enyapjr at comcast.net
Subject: [pct-l] Water Report sectionC
To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID:

<284062250.7880001242088089594.JavaMail.root at sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.com
cast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Before checking it out, I 'passed it on' to the 2009 group...
Looking at AsABat's water report after posting, "Highlander" reported
sometime today (5/11) that as of 5/9/09, the small stream at 332.8 was
"running well"...
I'll check first next time!!   ;-)   AsABat is on the ball and taking care
of business as usual! (Thanks!)

Happy trails!!!
Jim / PITA
> Iceaxe, please post this message to pct2009 at yahoogroups.com. Many
> thrus are not monitoring pct-l.
> 
> On Monday, May 11, 2009, Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
wrote:
>> IMPORTANT!
>> Water at 332..8
>> Stream is flowing
>> Listed as dry in water report.. NOT TRUE!
>> Iceaxe

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:39:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] a** of 2009
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <418954.62698.qm at web44804.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Perhaps after apprehending the purple-traitor, we could all tattoo stuff all
over his/her body.  Let the punishment fit the crime!

-Nathan Miller
Newberg, OR

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:08:07 -0700
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Report sectionC
To: <enyapjr at comcast.net>,	"'pct-l'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <03146C079C3940949DF4801D86EFBB5F at PC8>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Nah, I just updated that from w*rk today when I saw Iceaxe's post. I
thought it worth getting the word out quickly. Not sure why no water was
reported a couple weeks ago, but it's possible the source for that
stream hadn't surfaced yet through the winter silt. Just guessing.

AsABat

> -----Original Message-----
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net [mailto:enyapjr at comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:28 PM
> To: pct-l
> Subject: [pct-l] Water Report sectionC
> 
> Before checking it out, I 'passed it on' to the 2009 group...
> Looking at AsABat's water report after posting, "Highlander" reported
> sometime today (5/11) that as of 5/9/09, the small stream at 332.8 was
> "running well"...
> I'll check first next time!!   ;-)   AsABat is on the ball and taking
care
> of business as usual! (Thanks!)
> 
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim / PITA
> > Iceaxe, please post this message to pct2009 at yahoogroups.com. Many
> > thrus are not monitoring pct-l.
> >
> > On Monday, May 11, 2009, Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> wrote:
> >> IMPORTANT!
> >> Water at 332..8
> >> Stream is flowing
> >> Listed as dry in water report.. NOT TRUE!
> >> Iceaxe

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:25:51 +0000
From: wctrekker at dslextreme.com
Subject: [pct-l]  Horse at fish creek,
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID:

<2010400232-1242095202-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1786815614-@
bxe1072.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

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Susan and another rider, Janice, were very helpful and kind to me as I
struggled up the trail to lower Morris Meadow. They gave my pack a "ride"
for about a mile. One of their horses "pulled" me along as I held on to its
tail. It was a very funny picture!  Sorry to hear about her troubles. 
Bill
"Horse Tale"
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:46:37 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Help!
To: yuppatt at sbcglobal.net
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <4A08F11D.2020601 at charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

John,

I only have two of your posts on my computer, this one and one on 
05/10/2009.  Both read fine on my Apple Mac using Thunderbird email client.

  From what you describe my guess is that your email program you are 
using to read the emails is using the wrong character encoding setting 
to decode (convert) the actual email message into what is displayed on 
your screen.

I sometimes have a similar problem with weird characters in someone's 
email and I change the character encoding setting to view that message 
and I get a more readable text with fewer weird characters. Since I 
don't know what email program are using and very little about the other 
programs, this is about all the help I can provide.  Try looking thru 
your email program menus and see if there is an item for character 
encoding.  Try switching between "Western" and "Unicode" to view the 
message and see if this helps.

Tortoise

<> He who finishes last, wins! <>

JOHN F PATTERSON wrote:
> I have made submissions here for many years . 
> I need help . 
> Why do my submissions now get broken up - question marks , changed order ,
broken paragraphs , etc .
> I never had this .
> Is very frustrating .    
> Anyone ?
>  
> Rafter Jack 
> _______________________________________________
> Pct-l mailing list
> Pct-l at backcountry.net
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
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>   

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