[pct-l] Fuller Ridge

susan woodswitch at hughes.net
Sun May 3 08:22:14 CDT 2009


Can anyone tell me the conditions at Fuller Ridge? I am traveling on
horseback and need that perspective such as downed trees too big to cut,
snow too deep, etc. I will be there in a few days and would appreciate the
help from anyone who has been there in the past couple of days. Many thanks,
Grayhair.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Superfeet? (foot related but somewhat OT) (Tortoise)
   2. Re: How to get from White Pass to Cascade Locks for a	section
      hike? (Julie Flaming)
   3. (pct-l) RE: Superfeet? (Erik The Black)
   4. Re: sublite (Tahoecat)
   5. Re: superfeet (Brenda Beatty)
   6. Re: sublite (Julian Plamann)
   7. Re: (pct-l) RE: Superfeet? (Stephen)
   8. Re: Free Lessons (Reinhold Metzger)
   9. Re: PCT KO Free Lessons (hiker97 at aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 20:34:49 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Superfeet? (foot related but somewhat OT)
To: Marion Davison <mardav at charter.net>
Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <49FD10D9.9040606 at charter.net>
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One more idea.

I have a pair of black leather NB walking shoes.  They are not exactly 
dress shoes but they aren't tennies either.

Tortoise

<> He who finishes last, wins! <>



Tortoise wrote:
> I usually wear New Balance shoes -- 2E width with the wide toes to 
> better fit my feet.
>
> I've had problems with my arches and have a pair of Rx orthotics.
>
> I had some foot problems so I padded my one orthotic with a couple 
> layers of moleskin in the arch area.  That seemed to help.
>
> For a while I was wearing my NBs with just the green superfeet.  
> Eventually my feet started hurting and I had some knee problems.  
> don't know if the knee problems  are/were related to my foot problems.
>
> Now I'm trying the superfeet (green) with the unpadded orthotics.  so 
> far, so good. but only time will tell.
>
> So give the green superfeet a try.  Also when I got my first pair of 
> Superfeet at the San Francisco REI, the clerk mentioned that they 
> could also make custom Superfeet there so this may help.
>
>
> Beyond that I think the ADA requires employers to make reasonable 
> accommodations for people with disabilities. I'm not a lawyer but it 
> seems to me your situation would require your employer to allow you to 
> wear footwear for your disability, especially since you had previously 
> worn them without objection.
>
> Then maybe you can just dye your NBs black.  ;-)
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> He who finishes last, wins! <>
>
>
>
> Marion Davison wrote:
>> I have two herniated discs in my lower back which flare up 
>> frequently. I do pretty well in proper footwear (such as my NB hiking 
>> shoes).
>> My boss has laid down the law and is requiring me to wear dress shoes 
>> to work. After two weeks of this my back is killing me and I have to 
>> heavily medicate to get through the workday.
>> Today a salesperson at Sports Chalet persuaded me to give Superfeet 
>> insoles a try (they are kinda expensive!)
>> Has anyone had any experience with these, positive or negative?  I 
>> bought the "black" beccause they claim to be the best ones to use 
>> with dress shoes.
>> Marion
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 20:48:28 -0700
From: Julie Flaming <julie.flaming at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] How to get from White Pass to Cascade Locks for a
	section hike?
To: Jim Eagleton <eagleton at hotmail.com>
Cc: pct list <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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	<4416eed00905022048l7034b613l61cbfb6902f659df at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi, Jim -

If you're looking at mass transit, try
http://www.c-tran.com/system-map.html - C-tran - Vancouver's public transit
and
http://www.trimet.org/ - Tri-Met

Take Tri-Met light rail (aka "the Max" ) to the Parkrose/Sumner Transit
Center and transfer to any of three c-tran lines going into Vancouver.

Julie


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Jim Eagleton <eagleton at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm hoping to use your link:
>
> http://www.gorgetranslink.com/ska_fr.html
>
> to get from Vancouver, WA to North Bonneville /Stevenson / Carson across
> from Cascade locks.
>
>
>
> Has anyone gone from the Portland, OR airport to Vancouver, WA recently?
>  I'm having trouble with my googling skills.
>
> toc
>
> > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 16:33:06 -0800
> > From: jeff.whitmer at gmail.com
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] How to get from White Pass to Cascade Locks for a
> section hike?
> >
> > A few minutes of googling did turn up this, but it looks pretty
outdated.
> > http://www.gorgetranslink.com/regional.html
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 20:54:23 -0700
From: "Erik The Black" <erik at eriktheblack.com>
Subject: [pct-l] (pct-l) RE: Superfeet?
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Hi Marion, 

I used Superfeet for a long time but never liked them. My main beef with the
Superfeet is that they are so hard. There really isn't any cushion (I've
tried all the different colors) and they always hurt the bottom of my feet.

Then I discovered the Montrail Enduro soles, which have the same good
support as Superfeet, but they also have some nice padding on top. 

http://www.montrail.com/Subcategory.aspx?top=1&cat=140

They are designed to be heated up and then you are supposed to stand on them
so they mold to your feet. I never actually did that, I just stuck 'em in my
shoe and they molded to my foot over time (which is what the guy at the
running store where I found them recommended).

They also have an "LP" version, which is lower volume (flatter) which may
fit better inside your dress shoes, although the regular version isn't
incredibly tall either so that one might also fit. I use the regulars in all
my shoes.

http://www.montrail.com/Subcategory.aspx?top=1&cat=140

I've worn these every day for two years now for hiking and just walking
around town and I love them.


Happy Trails!
Erik The Black
www.eriktheblack.com




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Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:25:17 -0800
From: Marion Davison <mardav at charter.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Superfeet? (foot related but somewhat OT)
To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <49FD0E9D.7030602 at charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I have two herniated discs in my lower back which flare up frequently. 
I do pretty well in proper footwear (such as my NB hiking shoes).
My boss has laid down the law and is requiring me to wear dress shoes to 
work. After two weeks of this my back is killing me and I have to 
heavily medicate to get through the workday.
Today a salesperson at Sports Chalet persuaded me to give Superfeet 
insoles a try (they are kinda expensive!)
Has anyone had any experience with these, positive or negative?  I 
bought the "black" beccause they claim to be the best ones to use with 
dress shoes.
Marion
*****************



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 21:00:56 -0700
From: "Tahoecat" <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sublite
To: "Amanda Gardynik" <aggardynik at gmail.com>,	"PCT MailingList"
	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <2944A1E109C14A359CCD0E1B9971BAA1 at catherinehome>
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	reply-type=original

"How's Your Trail"?  Hi Amanda  yes I bought the Silnylon Sub-lite form 
Henry and have used it on My last hike in March. That's the only way to go 
in my book. The only thing is if you put it on a hill or slant and have a 
slick pad and bag you will slide to the bottom all night. I will use a strip

of that rubber stuff that they use in silverware drawers. That will keep you

from sliding. It's a Great tent   Remember "Be Prepared"  Ground Pounder 
Bill  "Semper Fi"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amanda Gardynik" <aggardynik at gmail.com>
To: "PCT MailingList" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [pct-l] sublite


> Has anyone ever tried the Sublite from tarptent.com?  Trying to decide 
> which
> to go with. The rainbow looks nice but it's 34oz.
>
> -- 
> *Amanda*
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brenda Beatty <brendab2k at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] superfeet
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <793545.8770.qm at web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Comfy shoes at work are too important, especially if you are on your feet
all day.? I recently tried pink superfeet (I'm knock-kneed) and could feel
things sort out in a? few weeks.? Superfeet only work so much.? You need
good shoes as a foundation.? I've never worn running shoes in public unless
I was running until hiking the PCT this year (not exactly the style(less)
statement I wanted to make.? I also need to look good at work and the best
shoes I've ever worn (and now only wear) are El Naturalista.? Your feet are
your foundation for all of the rest of your bone structure.? Spend some
money there and you'll need less physio, have more energy left at the end of
the day and have fewer knee, joint and back issues.
?
For me at least, this two items are a dynamite combination.? I'd really
recommend a pedorthist or at the very least, a good shoe fitter.? 


Think like a mountain!
?--blackberry.
?
http://pbp.principle.com/nos/norm


      

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:06:01 -0700
From: Julian Plamann <julian at amity.be>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sublite
To: Tahoecat <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID:
	<45cd425a0905022206w777c8721k751a1e7577d0d7dd at mail.gmail.com>
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The easiest way to fix this issue is to seam seal the tent with a mix of
mineral spirits and silicone -- and when finished, use the leftover
silicone-mineral spirit mix and a 1"foam brush to paint vertical and
horizontal lines across the entire floor of the tent. You'll end up with a
nice rubbery pattern that keeps the sleeping bag from sliding around.

Julian



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Tahoecat <tahoe.cat at verizon.net> wrote:

> "How's Your Trail"?  Hi Amanda  yes I bought the Silnylon Sub-lite form
> Henry and have used it on My last hike in March. That's the only way to go
> in my book. The only thing is if you put it on a hill or slant and have a
> slick pad and bag you will slide to the bottom all night. I will use a
> strip
> of that rubber stuff that they use in silverware drawers. That will keep
> you
> from sliding. It's a Great tent   Remember "Be Prepared"  Ground Pounder
> Bill  "Semper Fi"
>
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> Pct-l mailing list
> Pct-l at backcountry.net
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
>


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 01:00:37 -0700
From: "Stephen" <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] (pct-l) RE: Superfeet?
To: "Erik The Black" <erik at eriktheblack.com>,	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c9cbc5$43d1d270$8345e804 at Stephen>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Yup, pretty much a short term orthodic.  I've walked hundreds of miles using

superfeet and I just gave up on them after a while and consider them just 
another gimick to make a buck now.  Cheaply made plastic and faon and just 
wait 'til the heel breaks down and it feels like there is a little rock in 
your shoe that you can never shakeout...  and way over priced for what you 
get.  They will completely change the dynamic of a lot of shoes and boots 
and often place the heel in the wrong position inthe heel cup.  And or will 
cause arch probelms for some like walking on a roll of coins.  Also, the 
same superfoot will fit differently and change the fit of different types 
and brands etc...  If you insist on useing them, make sure you don't cut the

toe short or they can slide inside you shoes which gets irritating.  Much 
better to get shoes that fit in the first place, end of story.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik The Black" <erik at eriktheblack.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: [pct-l] (pct-l) RE: Superfeet?


> Hi Marion,
>
> I used Superfeet for a long time but never liked them. My main beef with 
> the
> Superfeet is that they are so hard. There really isn't any cushion (I've
> tried all the different colors) and they always hurt the bottom of my 
> feet.
>
> Then I discovered the Montrail Enduro soles, which have the same good
> support as Superfeet, but they also have some nice padding on top.
>
> http://www.montrail.com/Subcategory.aspx?top=1&cat=140
>
> They are designed to be heated up and then you are supposed to stand on 
> them
> so they mold to your feet. I never actually did that, I just stuck 'em in 
> my
> shoe and they molded to my foot over time (which is what the guy at the
> running store where I found them recommended).
>
> They also have an "LP" version, which is lower volume (flatter) which may
> fit better inside your dress shoes, although the regular version isn't
> incredibly tall either so that one might also fit. I use the regulars in 
> all
> my shoes.
>
> http://www.montrail.com/Subcategory.aspx?top=1&cat=140
>
> I've worn these every day for two years now for hiking and just walking
> around town and I love them.
>
>
> Happy Trails!
> Erik The Black
> www.eriktheblack.com
>
>
>
>
> *****************
> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:25:17 -0800
> From: Marion Davison <mardav at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Superfeet? (foot related but somewhat OT)
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <49FD0E9D.7030602 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have two herniated discs in my lower back which flare up frequently.
> I do pretty well in proper footwear (such as my NB hiking shoes).
> My boss has laid down the law and is requiring me to wear dress shoes to
> work. After two weeks of this my back is killing me and I have to
> heavily medicate to get through the workday.
> Today a salesperson at Sports Chalet persuaded me to give Superfeet
> insoles a try (they are kinda expensive!)
> Has anyone had any experience with these, positive or negative?  I
> bought the "black" beccause they claim to be the best ones to use with
> dress shoes.
> Marion
> *****************
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 02:06:04 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Free Lessons
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <49FD5E7C.1010005 at cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 To comply with with Brick's request to keep it  "G"  rated and avoid 
the appearance of flaming I have deleted Postholer's
offensive four letter word and reply in a sympathetic manner.
  
Yes Postholer, I understand your occasional frustrated outbursts now 
that I understand your short comings.
It must be very frustrating for you to go through life feeling that 
mother nature has shortened you in some way.
Just remember, its primary function is reproduction and as long as your 
shortcoming has not affected its primary function your short coming is 
inconsequential.

JMT Reinhold
Your sympathetic trail companion
--------------------------------------

Postholer wrote:
Hey Reinhold, it must be a real burden to go through life with a tiny 
little XXXX.
--------------------------------------
Reinhold wrote:

> Actually Switchback, the logo on the baseball hat said....."SEX  
> INSTRUCTOR....First Lesson Free".
> I am a firm believer in sharing our vast experience and knowledge with 
> those less experienced and knowledgeable.
> It is the right thing to do....don't you agree?
>
> BTW....the free lessons are intended only for the young, innocent, 
> inexperienced members of the opposite sex who would benefit the most 
> from those free lessons, so there is no need for you and AsABat to 
> apply for free lessons.
> Besides, I am backlogged for six month with applications for free 
> lessons.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Sex Instructor
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Switchback wrote:
> I spot a baseball hat in the crowd that says....."Sex 
> Instructor...First Session Free"....and immediately yell  "Reinhold"  
> instantly the reply is  "Switchback"...So we hook up.  Lot's of laughs.
>



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 05:32:32 -0400
From: hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT KO Free Lessons
To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <8CB99E937E7B768-9AC-70 at webmail-md12.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Unsupported JMT wrote:?Actually Switchback, the logo on the baseball hat
said....."SEX INSTRUCTOR....First Lesson Free".?
I am a firm believer in sharing our vast experience and knowledge with those
less experienced and knowledgeable.? It is the right thing to do....don't
you agree??
?
BTW....the free lessons are intended only for the young, innocent,
inexperienced members of the opposite sex who would benefit the most from
those free lessons, so there is no need for you and AsABat to apply for free
lessons.? Besides, I am backlogged for six month with applications for free
lessons.?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Switchback replies: Now that you have told us about your dreams and
fantasies out on the trail, how about waking up to reality.? Now I know
why?you do not have any bear problems on the trail.? I always wondered why
they run from you.??
?


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