[pct-l] Snow Questionaire for pct thru hike finishers

Ned Tibbits ned at mountaineducation.com
Mon Sep 25 14:51:47 CDT 2006


Hi, Rebecca!

I will make them available on Mountain Education's website as soon as we can 
compile it all.

Mtnned

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rebecca Mezoff" <rlmezoff at cybermesa.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: <pct2006 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow Questionaire for pct thru hike finishers


> And for those of use who may not make any of those seminars before
> hiking the trail next year, can you include your answers on the list
> of make them available somewhere?  Or put them on the PCT2007 yahoo
> group list?  These are pretty much all of the questions I think we're
> all having thinking about next year and if you can share the wealth
> and only answer once (because we're all going to be asking them over
> the next few months), it would be so great.
> Thanks!
> Rebecca, PCT '07
>
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Ned Tibbits wrote:
>
>> To Jeff and all of you who finished this outrageous trail
>> experience and are trying to begin your new lives, can you take a
>> few minutes and share your thoughts on the following questions?
>> What you say may be used in presentations at ALDHA-West, the ADZ,
>> REI and other public seminars. Can we quote you?  If you have any
>> specific pictures that would help others understand your point of
>> view on a subject below, could you include it in your response and
>> can we use it for presentation?
>>
>> In light of your snow and ice challenges:
>>
>>     - What would you say was the best method of traveling over the
>> snow and handling the icy stretches? (snowshoes, boots only,
>> runners only, ice axe, crampons...)
>>         -  which was the safest, most injury-free?
>>         -  which allowed you the most miles?
>>         -  which kept you the driest?
>>         -  were you glad you had snowshoes?
>>
>>     -  How many of you were injured in any way while on snow?
>> (strains, sprains, cuts, infections, submersions, hypothermia,
>> overexposure, dehydration, blindness, cramping, weight loss...)
>>
>>     -  How would you recommend hikers avoid these injuries next year?
>>
>>     -  What techniques worked best for stream crossings?
>>         -  any troubles with clothes drying out?
>>         -  what worked on your feet while crossing?
>>         -  anyone fall mid-stream and how did you get to safety?
>>         -  any lost gear?
>>
>>     -  How many miles a day was realistic?
>>         -  did you have a strategy for accomplishing your miles?
>> (passes/streams   early, really early starts, simply long days...)
>>
>>     -  Were you prepared for how hard it was?
>>         -  how would you help the next class understand what to
>> expect?
>>
>>     -  Did you have enough food?
>>         -  which worked best, Hot meals or Cold?
>>         -  what would you carry more of next time?
>>         -  did you go through more fuel or less than on summer trail?
>>
>>     -  Did your poles work out?
>>         -  baskets hold up?
>>         -  poles bend or break?
>>         -  wish they were designed differently??
>>
>>     -  Ice axe use:
>>         -  did they help while glissading?
>>         -  did any one fall and need to arrest their slide?
>>         -  did they help on the climbs?
>>         -  did anyone wish they had learned how to use them before
>> the trip?
>>         -  anyone injured by the axe, itself?
>>
>>     -  Crampons:
>>         -  how often did you need them & under what conditions and
>> circumstances?
>>         -  what design worked best on runners or boots?
>>         -  did you feel more secure with them on?
>>         -  did they add to the safety of your trip through the snow?
>>
>>     -  Were you warm and dry enough?
>>         -  what clothing combinations worked for you?
>>         -  any trouble with frozen items in the morning:
>>             -  water bottles, tent floors, pants, shoes, socks,
>> gaiters, bags, flies?
>>             -  did you take time somewhere in the day to dry out?
>>             -  if you had trouble with wet and frozen shoes, socks
>> & gaiters, how would you recommend others avoid what you experienced?
>>
>>     -  Shelter:  Tarp or Tent?
>>         -  did anyone experience bad weather on snow? (wind, rain,
>> snow...)
>>             -  which type of shelter worked best for you or for
>> others?
>>
>>     -  What techniques worked best on sun cups?
>>
>>     -  Any troubles with navigation?
>>         -  how would you advise/reassure future hikers regarding
>> following buried trail?
>>         -  what techniques/tools worked best?
>>
>>     -  Traction and Sure Footedness:
>>         -  did you slip a lot walking on the snow or in mud once
>> off the snow?
>>         -  what would you do differently?
>>
>>     -  Climbs and Descents:
>>         -  did you go straight up or switchback?
>>         -  did the snow ever make any strange noises in the pack as
>> you passed?
>>         -  did you get sick of the snow and choose rock routes up
>> or down?
>>         -  did you posthole down and was it the safest way?
>>         -  did you sit down and slide, stand and skate or traverse
>> down?
>>         -  was walking in other's footsteps helpful, awkward or
>> dangerous?
>>
>>     -  Sanitation:
>>         -  how did you deal with your used toilet paper?
>>
>>     -  General:
>>         -  did everyone carry sunscreen, lip balm, and dark glasses
>> and use them?
>>         -  did you drink more water or about the same as summer trail?
>>         -  did you have any food cravings (like you were missing
>> something dietary)?
>>         -  any issues with communication out?
>>         -  any safety problems with group members getting spread
>> out on snow?
>>         -  any advice regarding resupply in the High Sierra (KM to
>> Echo)?
>>
>>     -  Ultralight, advantages/disadvantages:
>>         -  does the ultralight philosophy adequately prepare you
>> for the snow experience or does it, basically, get thrown out the
>> window during this time?
>>
>>     -  Forums, ADZ, PCT-L, publications, professional schools and
>> training:
>>         -  can these methods adequately and realistically prepare
>> thru hikers for the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual
>> challenges of the long trail?
>>         -  what helped you and why?
>>
>>
>> There is so much that can be said about the benefits of time spent
>> in Wilderness. What did this experience do for you and what do you
>> want to do with it?
>>
>> A Thousand thanks!!!
>>
>> Mtnned
>>         -
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>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Jeff Singewald
>>   To: pct2006 at yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:32 PM
>>   Subject: [pct2006] Re: pct thru hike finishers
>>
>>
>>   Jorgy,
>>
>>   When I finished on 9/6 I know of the following nobo thru-hike
>>   finishers:
>>
>>   Scott Williamson
>>   Eric Dees
>>   Jarrett
>>   Peaschur (sp?)
>>   Elevator (myself)
>>
>>   Scott and Eric both turned around and headed southbound on yo-yo
>>   attempts.
>>
>>   Additionally, I am aware of two other couples (Patience and Lico and
>>   Bluegrass and Scarecrow) that signed the Monument register, although
>>   there was mention elsewhere that they may have skipped a section of
>>   the Sierras. I only mention this as you asked about border to
>>   border, however, I do not have first hand knowledge.
>>
>>   I know that since I finished I have heard from both you and Lint
>>   indicating you finished. I know that Lint went through the border
>>   fire closure on 9/10 without problem. I would suspect that Mike
>>   Mallory and Go-Go and Right Behind would have also finished sometime
>>   shortly after you and Lint.
>>
>>   Keep in mind that we will not be able to use the monument register
>>   this year because the Tatoosh fire closed the border for a period of
>>   time and some folks have taken the detour and others have decided to
>>   call it done at Harts Pass.
>>
>>   Jeff
>>
>>   --- In pct2006 at yahoogroups.com, "karl jorgensen" <karlandpeggy at ...>
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how many of the 006 class have finished the hike
>>   from
>>> border to border? Just interested. jorgy
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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