[pct-l] Ice axe

Shutterbug steiner shutterbugg313 at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 21 20:19:24 CDT 2006

I too would be interested in any stories of full Self Arrest with the ULA Potty Trowel.  I believe it gives a false sense of security and only could be used in heavy snow for self belay - which is good........the biggest goal in Mountaineering is to prevent falling but I fear that it would fail on a full self arrest on ICE --- which by the way is when you need it the most.  I'd not want to risk my life on 6 oz.
  I personally like the Black Diamond Raven and have used it in practice self arrest many times.  And learning and practicing are very important OR it is just a nice walking stick with sharp points.

AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote:
  I would be good to hear some first-hand stories of how the ULA Helix "Potty
Trowel" worked in self arrest, with details of ice conditions, slope, and
distance before stopping. 


> I know a couple of thru-hikers who used the ULA Helix this year, and were
> satisfied with it. It was not excessively fragile (did not sustain damage
> enroute) and was successfully deployed for self-arrests.

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